Wheat & Tares welcomes guest poster Bill Reel once more for a discussion on “Mitch Mayne: Gay and Mormon”, a interview on how we can locally handle the LGBT issue with more charity and understanding while supporting Doctrine and policies.
At Mormon Discussion Podcast we interviewed Mitch Mayne this Week
Sometimes we assume that there is no room to be Gay and be Mormon….. but today we blow that false assumption right out of the water. Today we also help LDS distinguish between Doctrine, Policy and Culture around this issue. We tackle how to be more inclusive and how to bring all unto Christ.
– Can one be both gay and LDS?
– What is your ward and stake like on this issue?
– Is there room under Doctrine to be more inclusive and less marginalizing?
– Do you think the Church will make a 180 on this issue at some point?
– What has been your experience interacting with LGBT LDS?
This episode is found HERE
Bill Reel is the host of Mormon Discussion Podcast. The podcast tries to deal with the tough issues forthrightly while “leading with faith”.
Yes, in the short term one can be both fill-in-the-blank and LDS — as time goes on, if one will allow, he or she will learn correct principles and practices and will become more Christ-like, and many old things will be done away. That’s the refining process of the Gospel.
Great podcast! Mitch is intelligent and articulate. It opens the door to the possibility of a new relationship between gays and the church in a prototypical way but it’s useful to realize that Mitch seems exceptional and this is all taking place in the liberal S.F. Bay area. It likely won’t play the same in red states and the church is still defending their anti-gay (recent) history. Oaks just happened to be the Pres. of BYU when gays “weren’t being coerced” into gender reorientation via aversion therapy so we still have some face saving years to live through.
Elder Oaks talk on Saturday seemed much less strident. He did seem to accept that gay marriage would become legal, and the church would have to accommodate it at some stage.
Once it is legal in Utah, we will see. During my lifetime, we have accepted black members into the temple, mixed race marriages (once they became required by law), birth control as a private matter, sex as a private matter.
Only a question of time before we accept gay people and gay marriage, and also a retirement age for Apostles, and priesthood for all worthy members.
I would not like to be gay in my ward, many members feel that they are following the Prophet obediently by opposing anything gay. I get anti gay emails from other members (though none in the last year) and had trouble getting a TR time before last because I questioned the assertions being made in one.
“…he or she will learn correct principles and practices and will become more Christ-like, and many old things will be done away.”
You are not suggesting that becoming more Christlike means becoming less gay, right? Please tell me that is not what you mean. Or, if that *is* what you mean, what you would have to say to the very real gay people who have tried their best to be Christlike, done everything possible, kept every commandment, and still are gay?
Or did I just feed a troll?
Geoff – Aus (4): “mixed race marriages (once they became required by law), ”
Wait, is my marriage not legal because it is same-race?
Seriously, though, just because we know things will change over time does not mean things will change exactly how we’d like them to as “only a question of time”.
Geoff: alcohol is.legal but you may not have full fellowship in the church if you are a practicig alcoholic same with ssm you may not have full fellowship in the church if you are a practicing homosexual