“Love the sinner — hate your own sins”
That strikes me as a much better way to work on the process of getting the beams out of one’s own eye.
That was my revision to a popular saying after reading one of Christ’s sermons.
What sayings have you heard that might do with a little revision after reading the scriptures?
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Wheat & Tares 
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“”love the sinner, hate your own sins” — I like that, since we need to love ourselves and we get more mileage out of getting the beams out of our own eyes.”
First of all, I would stop with “Love the sinner.”
Second, a reasonable (in my opinion) read of Ghandi, to whom the phrase is attributed, would be “love . . . hate . . .” seldom if ever works because we’re not good at separating the person and the person’s actions; but might be better stated as “love the sinner, hate the system” (so the second half is not personal).
Third, “doubt your doubts” needs a rewrite. Something like “doubt is a journey—don’t stop.”
Steve, I like it.
In the spirit of adapting phrases, one I’ll make is:
“Everything I learned about love, I learned from family”
From the context of raising kids or growing up with brothers and sisters, “Love the sinner” is easily comprehensible – to the point using the word “sinner” to define them just isn’t correct. When I can look at someone outside of family that way, then I figure I’ve started to understand them.
“What would Jesus Do?” is a seeming harmless saying that is seen frequently. However it’s easy to find pious people doing any number of terrible things to fellow human beings in the name of Jesus. I’d change “WWJD” to “be kind.”
Toad—that is excellent. There is a Jewish reformulation of the golden rule that is “be kind.”
Hating their sins is why your kids are killing themselves, dear. It’s not always outside pressure; a lot of the time it comes from within, especially when everyone’s talking about what a monster “those people” are and are just willfully ignorant to what it’s like to actually be one.
I almost killed myself in 2008 because I just couldn’t. Stop. Masturbating. And because of that, I knew I was cosmically worthless. I hadn’t gone on a mission, I’d never marry in the temple, and even if I did somehow I knew I’d just start again later and lose everything.
The gender dysphoria didn’t help, but I didn’t even know that’s what it was back then. I certainly wasn’t equipped to address it, in the church of enduring to the end. Where some people have to endure more than others, for no other reason than that it makes your theology simpler.
Well, I hope you have learned to love yourself now.
I did notice that once I resigned, I started being asked if I was happy. Like, but are you really, really happy??
No one seemed to care about my emotional state before then.
Sort of like how it’s taken what, ten years for your church leaders to acknowledge that “oh hey our kids are killing themselves off in droves, maybe we should say something about it”?
It’s almost like it’s the 80’s all over again. You know, the last time nobody cared about a ton of Those People dying, and didn’t lift a finger to help.
Although not really in the Book of Mormon, I often hear a famous scripture paraphrased as: “You will not be tempted beyond what you are able to bear.” Or something like that where people like to think we pass through hard trials but God knows we can handle it or He wouldnt allow it.
I would like those thoughts re-written to be:
“We too often underestimate our resilience to get through hard things. But some things are beyond our control. Be careful of temptations and accept we are not perfect and won’t always succeed no matter how much faith we have. Bad things can happen to both good and bad people alike.”
Ok…someone help me …that was too wordy… But I wish it was rewritten more to accept we can’t handle some things, no matter how hard we try…and God doesn’t always (often) intervene…he let’s poop happen and that doesn’t mean we failed.
Nobody’s mentioned the classic dangling “it” in D&C 1:38 that permits a misleading extract implying the voice of God and the voice of his servants is the same, instead of God’s will being accomplished however delivered.
So
“whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, [it = the voice] is the same”
would be a better saying as:
“whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, [my word shall be fulfilled]”
ChristianKimble —exactly.
Jewelfox — what is causing the non-LDS kids to commit suicide? The national increase is a terrible wave.